willigetagc
08-14 09:33 AM
Yes, that is right, I said “plight of EB2-India”.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
most ridiculous argument and surprising because it is coming from a Phd. Surely, you must have defended your doctoral thesis, or did'nt you have one ? :p
The people who go for Phds should know that they are sacrificing short-term future cash flows in exchange for a far superior long-term cash flows. The others "EB3" go for a more milder but increasing series of future cash flows.
To each his own!!! But when people say that "my career is over because my gc is delayed" UNDERSTAND that they are venting their frustration. It does not mean that their career is really over.
And, like you, they will also work here as long as they like it and if not, go back...
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
most ridiculous argument and surprising because it is coming from a Phd. Surely, you must have defended your doctoral thesis, or did'nt you have one ? :p
The people who go for Phds should know that they are sacrificing short-term future cash flows in exchange for a far superior long-term cash flows. The others "EB3" go for a more milder but increasing series of future cash flows.
To each his own!!! But when people say that "my career is over because my gc is delayed" UNDERSTAND that they are venting their frustration. It does not mean that their career is really over.
And, like you, they will also work here as long as they like it and if not, go back...
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gsc999
07-12 02:18 AM
We need help:
- putting together some wooden banner structures. We will provide material. Please PM me if you are in Sunnyvale area and can meet in person on Friday in Sunnyvale for transfer of material.
- Ten or so volunteers to help direct and manage the Saturday(07/14) event.
- People to help with misc. activities like registering the participants who come to the event.
- putting together some wooden banner structures. We will provide material. Please PM me if you are in Sunnyvale area and can meet in person on Friday in Sunnyvale for transfer of material.
- Ten or so volunteers to help direct and manage the Saturday(07/14) event.
- People to help with misc. activities like registering the participants who come to the event.
rajuseattle
04-18 08:07 PM
Lets keep this thread to celebrate OP's Green Card and some inspiration for Hopeless EB-3 guys.
Krish: I agreed VISA recpature and not including dependents will help us a lot, but looking at the current political divisiveness and people focusing more on 2012 election cycle and the campaigning, noone going to touch this HOT POtato of legislative reforms for Legal immigration. Now considering wait until the formation of 113th US congress it is about 20 months time, so do u expect People who are qualified and getting an opportunity to get out of EB-3 mess should wait that long? People already waiting since 2002/2003 PDs and no sign of any legal relief from USCIS/DoS for this hopeless EB-3 india people. Once agian legit porting is the way out to come out of EB-3 india mess, their is no other solution for us. When you compare all retroigress classes EB-3 india is the worst, we are still in April 2002 as compared to other EB-3 categories which are now in July 2005 range. (china is exception to this they are way better than us to somewhere 2004 range). Please dont bring in this issue in this celebration thread, let people cheer something, we already had so many useless threads and verbal arguments on this subject.
Krish: I agreed VISA recpature and not including dependents will help us a lot, but looking at the current political divisiveness and people focusing more on 2012 election cycle and the campaigning, noone going to touch this HOT POtato of legislative reforms for Legal immigration. Now considering wait until the formation of 113th US congress it is about 20 months time, so do u expect People who are qualified and getting an opportunity to get out of EB-3 mess should wait that long? People already waiting since 2002/2003 PDs and no sign of any legal relief from USCIS/DoS for this hopeless EB-3 india people. Once agian legit porting is the way out to come out of EB-3 india mess, their is no other solution for us. When you compare all retroigress classes EB-3 india is the worst, we are still in April 2002 as compared to other EB-3 categories which are now in July 2005 range. (china is exception to this they are way better than us to somewhere 2004 range). Please dont bring in this issue in this celebration thread, let people cheer something, we already had so many useless threads and verbal arguments on this subject.
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sertasheep
07-19 04:54 PM
I'm not writing this in my capacity as a core member, but just as a regular individual. Aman has selflessly worked towards EB immigration reform, at the cost of precious personal time with family, as well as taking vacation time in order to make the numerous trips to Washington DC. He has not asked for reimbursement for expenses incurred during numerous previous trips to DC.
The skilled professional community, those who are members of IV, and those aren't yet, must be extremely grateful to Aman for this selfless act.
He may not like me stating this, but this is true.
Several volunteers have spent hundreds of dollars out of their own pockets without disturbing IV funds for press releases, travel and so on.
One important thing: Money is an enabler for several things including operating expenses, infrastructure mobilization, etc., However, at the end of the day, solidarity and efforts count.
While IV will continue to require funds, members are encouraged to assist in other non-monetary ways as well. That would be even more powerful information for us when we get in touch with policy influencers. A recent example was the stories requested by Cong. Loefgren's office, for which we had to prepare several stories, requring us to get in touch with you all. Completed information will help easen this process
a) Please discard your cloaks of anonymity and complete your profiles with your information. That's the first step.
b) The next step is to increase awareness among the community, law makers and influencers.
c) Get more members to enroll.
d) Assist in non-monetary ways: How many of you have non-working spouses, friends, et al who can contribute focused time and effort(not money). In other words, volunteer time and effort?
Please write to info@immigrationvoice.org
The skilled professional community, those who are members of IV, and those aren't yet, must be extremely grateful to Aman for this selfless act.
He may not like me stating this, but this is true.
Several volunteers have spent hundreds of dollars out of their own pockets without disturbing IV funds for press releases, travel and so on.
One important thing: Money is an enabler for several things including operating expenses, infrastructure mobilization, etc., However, at the end of the day, solidarity and efforts count.
While IV will continue to require funds, members are encouraged to assist in other non-monetary ways as well. That would be even more powerful information for us when we get in touch with policy influencers. A recent example was the stories requested by Cong. Loefgren's office, for which we had to prepare several stories, requring us to get in touch with you all. Completed information will help easen this process
a) Please discard your cloaks of anonymity and complete your profiles with your information. That's the first step.
b) The next step is to increase awareness among the community, law makers and influencers.
c) Get more members to enroll.
d) Assist in non-monetary ways: How many of you have non-working spouses, friends, et al who can contribute focused time and effort(not money). In other words, volunteer time and effort?
Please write to info@immigrationvoice.org
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klpd
01-30 06:45 PM
it is question #35 now
smuggymba
01-17 04:10 PM
I think one of the options should be - On H1 but not affected.
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santb1975
01-31 10:29 PM
However I asked the same question again on hillaryclinton.com for the voice across america townhall
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mirage
08-12 07:00 PM
No, Haven't got any response yet. But if we are able to send atleast a 100 letter with same concern, I'm sure atleast Rep. Zoe Logfren will raise the issue with USCIS...
mirage,
Good initiative, I will send a mail too. Did you get any kind of response back?
Good luck!
mirage,
Good initiative, I will send a mail too. Did you get any kind of response back?
Good luck!
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chanduv23
03-13 10:00 PM
I am still on H1 (not utilized EAD), the visa on my passport expired last year. Planning to visit India next week, should I be getting a visa stamped or use AP?
APPRECIATE INPUTS. Any USCIS link will also help.
Regards
Though it is not related to this thread, it is a decision that only u can make. A friend of mine whose priority date is nowhere close and is still on h1b used his AP to reenter the US and when I asked him why he did not want visa stamping - he said "who will go through all the hasstles of appointments, stanidng in queue, wasting precious vacation time when you have a AP to reenter" . Now thats him - but u can make ur own decision based on ur corcumstance.
APPRECIATE INPUTS. Any USCIS link will also help.
Regards
Though it is not related to this thread, it is a decision that only u can make. A friend of mine whose priority date is nowhere close and is still on h1b used his AP to reenter the US and when I asked him why he did not want visa stamping - he said "who will go through all the hasstles of appointments, stanidng in queue, wasting precious vacation time when you have a AP to reenter" . Now thats him - but u can make ur own decision based on ur corcumstance.
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yadavnay
07-18 12:40 PM
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vejella
07-11 01:14 PM
They either have to reject the application or provide the receipt notice. Cannot hold the applications without any actions for long time.
This can reduce the impacted percentage to people from Retrogressed Country /Category ...
May be some thing we can ponder on ....
This can reduce the impacted percentage to people from Retrogressed Country /Category ...
May be some thing we can ponder on ....
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alapkd
08-26 10:37 AM
Banking service is still way behind in comparison to US institutions. ICICI has to compete with nationalized banks in terms of competency and customer service so they surely do better but it is highly openly discriminatory depending on how valuable they think you are to them. Something that exists here but is very transparent. But I am sure ICICI has engaged in many questionable practices from marketing to collection, there have been some lawsuits as well against them.
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gk_2000
04-22 07:48 PM
Hey forever,
What is this lawsuit? Do you have info?
It was about why more visas were given to EB-I and less to EB-C. Nothing to do with present debate
What is this lawsuit? Do you have info?
It was about why more visas were given to EB-I and less to EB-C. Nothing to do with present debate
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sandy_anand
04-19 10:02 AM
Congratulations ! All is well which ends well
Love your sense of humor (based on your handle)! :D
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Openarms
06-17 02:55 PM
I have talked to IMG sales rep, he said they won't cover for pre existing conditions. He also said that as far as his knowledge is concerned there is no company out there that covers pre existing conditions when I asked him about it.
My final assumption is that any insurance we buy anywhere, just covers illnesses that are developed after the coverage starts.
Any corrections??
My final assumption is that any insurance we buy anywhere, just covers illnesses that are developed after the coverage starts.
Any corrections??
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forever_waiting
04-22 07:26 PM
eb3chinese.org was the site created. But of the info is in Chinese.
I had gone through their presentation sometime back and they were basically complaining about how EB india gets most of the spillover and they don't (along with some common arguments about visa recapture, FIFO etc etc.) You should be able to get details from their class action doc against USCIS uploaded on the site.
when news of this class action lawsuit initially came out, lots of folks on IV were mad at why we were not joining in and that we should launch a barrage of lawsuits against USCIS as well. IV core at that time calmly explained that lawsuit options have been explored and will not be viable but few people listened.
Anyway a recent update on this forum shared that they lost the lawsuit. So on hindsight we saved ourself lot of time, effort and money.
Hey forever,
What is this lawsuit? Do you have info?
I had gone through their presentation sometime back and they were basically complaining about how EB india gets most of the spillover and they don't (along with some common arguments about visa recapture, FIFO etc etc.) You should be able to get details from their class action doc against USCIS uploaded on the site.
when news of this class action lawsuit initially came out, lots of folks on IV were mad at why we were not joining in and that we should launch a barrage of lawsuits against USCIS as well. IV core at that time calmly explained that lawsuit options have been explored and will not be viable but few people listened.
Anyway a recent update on this forum shared that they lost the lawsuit. So on hindsight we saved ourself lot of time, effort and money.
Hey forever,
What is this lawsuit? Do you have info?
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m306m
12-13 03:44 PM
I have contributed $200 to the Omnibus fund drive and intend to contribute a lot more in the coming months. However, I would not have been a member of IV if this were a paid site.
I prefer that the contributions are voluntary and I am an example of someone who joined IV as a member and then CHOOSE to contribute to the cause. If IV had asked me to become a member by paying $200, I certainly would not have joined.
I vote to keep the site free and allow free flow of information. By making this a paid site we hurt the cause that IV is fighting for and we hurt potential members who would contribute.
I want to ask members who have contributed $500 - $1000, if this site asked that much for you to join would you have joined? If so would you continue to contribute after paying this much money? After paying money to a pay site there is a sense of entitlement that people feel. They feel that they have already paid their due and they will not contribute additional funds thinking that they have already paid once when choosing to be a member.
I urge the administrators and core member to please keep this site voluntary and free.
I prefer that the contributions are voluntary and I am an example of someone who joined IV as a member and then CHOOSE to contribute to the cause. If IV had asked me to become a member by paying $200, I certainly would not have joined.
I vote to keep the site free and allow free flow of information. By making this a paid site we hurt the cause that IV is fighting for and we hurt potential members who would contribute.
I want to ask members who have contributed $500 - $1000, if this site asked that much for you to join would you have joined? If so would you continue to contribute after paying this much money? After paying money to a pay site there is a sense of entitlement that people feel. They feel that they have already paid their due and they will not contribute additional funds thinking that they have already paid once when choosing to be a member.
I urge the administrators and core member to please keep this site voluntary and free.
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akp
07-15 07:41 PM
This thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=115066#post115066
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=115066#post115066
ElectricGrandpa
06-11 04:15 AM
Guys: Feel free to make new entries, but let me know what one u choose for the polls :D:D
So we can show multiple entries? But still only vote on one... sounds good.
I'll show this one for now then... It kinda sucks, but I plan on making a better one soon(which is why I hadn't uploaded this one yet).
-Matt
So we can show multiple entries? But still only vote on one... sounds good.
I'll show this one for now then... It kinda sucks, but I plan on making a better one soon(which is why I hadn't uploaded this one yet).
-Matt
satyasaich
12-07 04:00 PM
Hope the Change will come for us as well
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