Bradman
10-17 11:44 PM
EB2 RIR/India
PD: Nov 2001
Labor Certification: March 2006
I-140: Approval April 2006
I-485 -May 2006
Finger Printing: June 2006
It took almost 4 1/2 years to get the labor certification and now its almost 17 months since my I-485 is pending approval. Took the path of writing to the FL, State Senator, Local Congressman and was fortunate to receive their response suggesting that its stuck in the namecheck stage and will have to wait for it to be completed. It has become a nightmare.... The only update in my case used to be whenever I initiate a service request. Now what is that which I can do to come out of this riddle....
Any suggestion in this regard is highly appreciated !!!!
PD: Nov 2001
Labor Certification: March 2006
I-140: Approval April 2006
I-485 -May 2006
Finger Printing: June 2006
It took almost 4 1/2 years to get the labor certification and now its almost 17 months since my I-485 is pending approval. Took the path of writing to the FL, State Senator, Local Congressman and was fortunate to receive their response suggesting that its stuck in the namecheck stage and will have to wait for it to be completed. It has become a nightmare.... The only update in my case used to be whenever I initiate a service request. Now what is that which I can do to come out of this riddle....
Any suggestion in this regard is highly appreciated !!!!
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rockstart
06-15 04:52 PM
Left a VM for all the Congress man/ women except Brian Bilbray since his mail box was full, wil call him later
gc28262
03-11 11:49 AM
Green.Tech,
I understand where you are coming from. And I am sorry that some of my recent posts were irresponsible.
Frankly, after mumbai attack I have been a different person. I come to this forum to learn and provide any information I can provide. But it bothers me to see few jerks like mirage who don't have any clue of how things work, and they just start posting on the forum "remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits" 30 times a day, as if that will be sufficient to remove country limits. And in more ways this uneducated style bothers me. I will try to ignore it and go my way.
I am right now going to speed dial that other side of me, good and informative side.
.
sanju,
It is ok to oppose any idea you don't like. But you can do it in a gentle way.
sanju, mirage,
Let peace prevail between you guys:)
I understand where you are coming from. And I am sorry that some of my recent posts were irresponsible.
Frankly, after mumbai attack I have been a different person. I come to this forum to learn and provide any information I can provide. But it bothers me to see few jerks like mirage who don't have any clue of how things work, and they just start posting on the forum "remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits" 30 times a day, as if that will be sufficient to remove country limits. And in more ways this uneducated style bothers me. I will try to ignore it and go my way.
I am right now going to speed dial that other side of me, good and informative side.
.
sanju,
It is ok to oppose any idea you don't like. But you can do it in a gentle way.
sanju, mirage,
Let peace prevail between you guys:)
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StuckInTheMuck
05-06 10:02 AM
I am have been on /off with my pay roll’s. I am still with my Green card sponsored company.
It’s almost 9 months since i got my GC. At the time of citizenship
How does USCIS verify the length of stay with the petition employer? Are they going to see the pay stubs or Length of the stay or a letter from employer….
plz help me.....
Sorry I missed your question before. My take on your situation is that you are good, and do not worry too much about USCIS's way of doing things. Did your company serve you any temporary suspension/reinstatement notice(s) coinciding with these payroll gaps? If not, and I would guess not (because that would reflect poorly on the company's health), your story means that as per your original employment letter, you have been with your employer continuously for 9 months after GC, and presumably longer (you did not say about any plan of leaving them soon), even though you are not being paid regularly. If anything, such payroll discontinuity should help establish your intention of remaining with your employer despite the hardship, if this issue comes up during citizenship interview. On your part, you should keep a detailed log of the dates you missed payments, in addition to all relevant papers (this goes back to DO item #3 in my list).
On your question about how USCIS verifies the length of stay with GC-sponsoring employer, my guess would be that for simple cases, they probably go by the employment letter or W2 etc. (something that has a single start date, and may/not have an end date). But if there are complicating factors, like your payroll gaps, and if USCIS comes to know about them (e.g. you tell them), they may ask your company to furnish evidence of payment history, such as copies of all relevant pay stubs (a simple letter from your employer may not suffice).
Chin up, please. You have your GC, which already makes you privileged compared to so many deserving folks still waiting long and hard. So, go hit the pub, shoot some pool, smell a rose, call up your fiance(e), take family on a Bahama cruise, tweak your boss's nose, kick some butt, write a(nother) check to IV, or whatever it is that you use as a release mechanism from such unnecessary tension :)
Cheers,
stuck
It’s almost 9 months since i got my GC. At the time of citizenship
How does USCIS verify the length of stay with the petition employer? Are they going to see the pay stubs or Length of the stay or a letter from employer….
plz help me.....
Sorry I missed your question before. My take on your situation is that you are good, and do not worry too much about USCIS's way of doing things. Did your company serve you any temporary suspension/reinstatement notice(s) coinciding with these payroll gaps? If not, and I would guess not (because that would reflect poorly on the company's health), your story means that as per your original employment letter, you have been with your employer continuously for 9 months after GC, and presumably longer (you did not say about any plan of leaving them soon), even though you are not being paid regularly. If anything, such payroll discontinuity should help establish your intention of remaining with your employer despite the hardship, if this issue comes up during citizenship interview. On your part, you should keep a detailed log of the dates you missed payments, in addition to all relevant papers (this goes back to DO item #3 in my list).
On your question about how USCIS verifies the length of stay with GC-sponsoring employer, my guess would be that for simple cases, they probably go by the employment letter or W2 etc. (something that has a single start date, and may/not have an end date). But if there are complicating factors, like your payroll gaps, and if USCIS comes to know about them (e.g. you tell them), they may ask your company to furnish evidence of payment history, such as copies of all relevant pay stubs (a simple letter from your employer may not suffice).
Chin up, please. You have your GC, which already makes you privileged compared to so many deserving folks still waiting long and hard. So, go hit the pub, shoot some pool, smell a rose, call up your fiance(e), take family on a Bahama cruise, tweak your boss's nose, kick some butt, write a(nother) check to IV, or whatever it is that you use as a release mechanism from such unnecessary tension :)
Cheers,
stuck
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desi3933
01-28 04:50 PM
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desi3933,
Please refer [URL="http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf"]AILA memo (http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf) as they have already detailed the law points in it.
Did you even read my post and the pdf link. BTW, pdf link refers to Aug 21st, 2009 much before this memo came out. Even if memo is withdrawn, how that is going to change the points agreed by the court?
Here is the pdf link again
http://www.uscis.gov/err/D2%20-%20Temporary%20Worker%20in%20a%20Specialty%20Occup ation%20or%20Fashion%20Model%20%28H-1B%29/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Aug212009_09D2101.pdf
I suggest that you go thru pdf links in my other posts for this topic. All these decisions refer to issues pertaining to H-1B working at the end-user client thru multiple layers. This memo does not make any difference that way. Like I said before, this memo just make the interpretation public knowledge.
Why these H-1B cases have been denied in last years and why these denials were not reversed by appeal court? These answers should enlighten you.
Just harping "illegal memo" does not change anything.
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Not a legal advice.
desi3933,
Please refer [URL="http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf"]AILA memo (http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf) as they have already detailed the law points in it.
Did you even read my post and the pdf link. BTW, pdf link refers to Aug 21st, 2009 much before this memo came out. Even if memo is withdrawn, how that is going to change the points agreed by the court?
Here is the pdf link again
http://www.uscis.gov/err/D2%20-%20Temporary%20Worker%20in%20a%20Specialty%20Occup ation%20or%20Fashion%20Model%20%28H-1B%29/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Aug212009_09D2101.pdf
I suggest that you go thru pdf links in my other posts for this topic. All these decisions refer to issues pertaining to H-1B working at the end-user client thru multiple layers. This memo does not make any difference that way. Like I said before, this memo just make the interpretation public knowledge.
Why these H-1B cases have been denied in last years and why these denials were not reversed by appeal court? These answers should enlighten you.
Just harping "illegal memo" does not change anything.
________________
Not a legal advice.
wawa
09-30 03:32 PM
Hey prince ...
just like my case...H1 transfer pending and case reopened on previous approved H1b....I would request everybody to keep an eye on all your H1 approvals, past and present, so that in case you guys have the same issue ..you can quickly search this tread for feedback....
Hi smartboy75/prince,
This reopened H1B case for me is a 7th year extention, I got it approved on Feb. 28 2006. I haven't received the mailed notice, maybe it would come Tuesday or Wednesday.
just like my case...H1 transfer pending and case reopened on previous approved H1b....I would request everybody to keep an eye on all your H1 approvals, past and present, so that in case you guys have the same issue ..you can quickly search this tread for feedback....
Hi smartboy75/prince,
This reopened H1B case for me is a 7th year extention, I got it approved on Feb. 28 2006. I haven't received the mailed notice, maybe it would come Tuesday or Wednesday.
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gsc999
07-19 04:32 PM
You are right in that the donation would go towards the core IV funds. But if we resort to writing personal checks and What if it is short of the amount he spent ? Should he wait for months if not years to realize the amount he spent ? I think they should be compensated immediately from the core IV funds.
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Can someone from the core tell us if there is a possibility that we can request IV to reimburse Aman and other core members for their past expenses and institute a prosess for expense reimbursement going forward
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Can someone from the core tell us if there is a possibility that we can request IV to reimburse Aman and other core members for their past expenses and institute a prosess for expense reimbursement going forward
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paskal
12-13 10:01 PM
I am not able to start and feel that there is already hidden membership is there. Is there any thuth in this feeling? How does IV is working in terms of access rights?
IV is already not member friendly. With 25,000 members, raising 30,000 is getting so difficult. Why so? I once posed the question and moderators conveniently deleted it.
anyone can start a thread, if you need help doing it, you may wish to ask politely and someone will tell you.
why so? ask yourself. read your own comments. and let us all know how you have helped the process of ending YOUR retrogression.
i have reviewed every post you ever put on iv. i don't see any deleted post.
so you may want to think again. hardly anything is deleted around here. otherwise a lot of intemperate stuff that's posted would disappear.
ultimately it comes to this: if 25,000 members show no interest in contributing in a fund drive (barring the minuscule 500 who did), what's the point in being "friendly". hey- iv is you and me. there is nothing else. no building, assets, stocks. I or aman or pappu or logiclife and every other core member and iv leader are just like you. we have jobs and families to take care of. we are afflicted by immigration retrogression- like you.
we have put in time, money and effort at great cost to our personal lives. i wish i could "like you" to that one too.
if "members" are willing to make this their organization their own- if there is to be this sense of involvement and ownership, then we will succeed. if not, if the attitude for the most is going to be "why should i" and "nope i am not contributing" and "how dare you ask" and "i have free speech" and "why doesn't iv do xyz for me" and "why should logiclife use this and that tenor" and "why did abc say def to me" and "i demand respect" and the best "these are my 2c but don't ask me to lift a finger to do this- iv should do this" then forget it. won't happen. because that IV you are imagining doing wonders and making miracles is YOU.
let me take this opportunity to thank everyone that participated in the fund drive, joined state chapters, met lawmakers, took initiatives to start state groups, ran the funding threads and contributed in any other way.
you are guys are true assets to iv- in fact you are the true iv. kudos to you!
IV is already not member friendly. With 25,000 members, raising 30,000 is getting so difficult. Why so? I once posed the question and moderators conveniently deleted it.
anyone can start a thread, if you need help doing it, you may wish to ask politely and someone will tell you.
why so? ask yourself. read your own comments. and let us all know how you have helped the process of ending YOUR retrogression.
i have reviewed every post you ever put on iv. i don't see any deleted post.
so you may want to think again. hardly anything is deleted around here. otherwise a lot of intemperate stuff that's posted would disappear.
ultimately it comes to this: if 25,000 members show no interest in contributing in a fund drive (barring the minuscule 500 who did), what's the point in being "friendly". hey- iv is you and me. there is nothing else. no building, assets, stocks. I or aman or pappu or logiclife and every other core member and iv leader are just like you. we have jobs and families to take care of. we are afflicted by immigration retrogression- like you.
we have put in time, money and effort at great cost to our personal lives. i wish i could "like you" to that one too.
if "members" are willing to make this their organization their own- if there is to be this sense of involvement and ownership, then we will succeed. if not, if the attitude for the most is going to be "why should i" and "nope i am not contributing" and "how dare you ask" and "i have free speech" and "why doesn't iv do xyz for me" and "why should logiclife use this and that tenor" and "why did abc say def to me" and "i demand respect" and the best "these are my 2c but don't ask me to lift a finger to do this- iv should do this" then forget it. won't happen. because that IV you are imagining doing wonders and making miracles is YOU.
let me take this opportunity to thank everyone that participated in the fund drive, joined state chapters, met lawmakers, took initiatives to start state groups, ran the funding threads and contributed in any other way.
you are guys are true assets to iv- in fact you are the true iv. kudos to you!
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kumarc123
11-03 08:27 AM
reasons...
I have seen many of my friends doing H1 for their spouses..... while their spouces have no experience what so ever..... employers help them cook their resumes..... in these cases employee has something to hide.... so they pay
H1 fees, stay on bench for few months......and never complain...
Now a days many companies send people on L1 visa. On L1 you have no choice. If you can't get H1 in April you are slave to the employer.... also with L1 there is no stipulated salary like H1.... so employers pay whatever they feel like and not market rate.....but since many employees have desire to stick around in US and save some Green... pay of their debts in home country.... they stay with same employer without complaining......
That is so TRUE! Ask me I finished my undergraduate from US, and I didn't get selected in the H1 lottery system 3 times, yes 3 times. Neither my wife's labor was cleared in July fiasco. So imagine my situation.
So,
who do I blame? US govt? Or these Desi companies who have exploited H1B system to the core, abusing the system and making our lives miserable each day. Well I am about to join an organization, which will report these Desi companies straight to Department of Commerce, there are a group of students from other Universities who are planning to be a part of the organization.
I have seen many of my friends doing H1 for their spouses..... while their spouces have no experience what so ever..... employers help them cook their resumes..... in these cases employee has something to hide.... so they pay
H1 fees, stay on bench for few months......and never complain...
Now a days many companies send people on L1 visa. On L1 you have no choice. If you can't get H1 in April you are slave to the employer.... also with L1 there is no stipulated salary like H1.... so employers pay whatever they feel like and not market rate.....but since many employees have desire to stick around in US and save some Green... pay of their debts in home country.... they stay with same employer without complaining......
That is so TRUE! Ask me I finished my undergraduate from US, and I didn't get selected in the H1 lottery system 3 times, yes 3 times. Neither my wife's labor was cleared in July fiasco. So imagine my situation.
So,
who do I blame? US govt? Or these Desi companies who have exploited H1B system to the core, abusing the system and making our lives miserable each day. Well I am about to join an organization, which will report these Desi companies straight to Department of Commerce, there are a group of students from other Universities who are planning to be a part of the organization.
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petepatel
09-17 11:28 AM
Audio is on :)
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msyedy
02-27 10:18 PM
could it be that ppl will not be able to sneak in with pre-approved labor now? if there is a significant number doing that, the PDs will move faster. Congrats IV on this achievement!
Isme IV ka kya haath hai. USCIS wanted to do it so they did it. IV or me I should say is just going to push when time comes to remove retrogression,
that is what we can do now. Our reforms are linked to CIR so pray.
Isme IV ka kya haath hai. USCIS wanted to do it so they did it. IV or me I should say is just going to push when time comes to remove retrogression,
that is what we can do now. Our reforms are linked to CIR so pray.
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wawa
10-12 12:21 PM
Friends,
I too have received an update from CRIS about reopening my old H1B from my previous employer which is a large multi-national organization. I have changed the company since then and I have already received my EAD with the new company. I am a bit worried about the outcome of this review. If in the event of revoking the H1b of my previous employer, will my current H1B will also be revoked or am I safe irrespective of the outcome. Would really appreciate if someone can provide any feedback.
Thanks
Hi,
I have my old H1B reopened on Sept. 28. The USCIS said they mailed me a notice, but so far I haven't received any mailed notice. Have you received this document?
Thanks
I too have received an update from CRIS about reopening my old H1B from my previous employer which is a large multi-national organization. I have changed the company since then and I have already received my EAD with the new company. I am a bit worried about the outcome of this review. If in the event of revoking the H1b of my previous employer, will my current H1B will also be revoked or am I safe irrespective of the outcome. Would really appreciate if someone can provide any feedback.
Thanks
Hi,
I have my old H1B reopened on Sept. 28. The USCIS said they mailed me a notice, but so far I haven't received any mailed notice. Have you received this document?
Thanks
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ita
12-20 10:08 AM
I don't how to start a poll but wouldn't it be nice to see how many of us mailed so we can have a count?
Thank you.
Thank you.
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tampacoolie
09-29 12:59 PM
I have noticed this on previously approved H1 Transfer petition.
Any thoughts?
Application Type: I129, PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER
Current Status: Duplicate notice sent.
On September 28, 2007, a duplicate notice on this case was mailed describing how we will process your case. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If this I129 PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER is still pending, you will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service. If this case is still pending, we process each kind of case in the order we receive them. You can use our processing dates to estimate when this case will be done. This case is at our VERMONT SERVICE CENTER location. Follow the link below for current processing dates. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
Any thoughts?
Application Type: I129, PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER
Current Status: Duplicate notice sent.
On September 28, 2007, a duplicate notice on this case was mailed describing how we will process your case. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If this I129 PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER is still pending, you will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service. If this case is still pending, we process each kind of case in the order we receive them. You can use our processing dates to estimate when this case will be done. This case is at our VERMONT SERVICE CENTER location. Follow the link below for current processing dates. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
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pappu
02-06 02:26 PM
Logiclife, I am sorry you are wrong.You don't need to post hour by hour update, but the update you posted today on Aman's meetings , help people to understand what really IV is doing and are necessary atleast once a fortnight.I am sure you are working in a corporate world and drive projects.The first rule on driving a big project is status meetings once every week.This helps all the stakeholders.
Pls attend our 'meetings' in order to get more information on what we are doing. Join your state chapter and actively participate in those 'meetings'. We called for volunteers last week for the media drive and only 12 members out of thousands of members that saw that message responded. We want to encourage members to actively help us rather than wait for update from us. Each one of us can create an update for the community. Meet your lawmakers and update us. A handful of people cannot do much. It is the collective effort of this organization that will help us get success.
Pls attend our 'meetings' in order to get more information on what we are doing. Join your state chapter and actively participate in those 'meetings'. We called for volunteers last week for the media drive and only 12 members out of thousands of members that saw that message responded. We want to encourage members to actively help us rather than wait for update from us. Each one of us can create an update for the community. Meet your lawmakers and update us. A handful of people cannot do much. It is the collective effort of this organization that will help us get success.
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ChalapathiChitturi
10-30 03:52 AM
Reverse brain drain will not happen with warning. But it is happening. I know 4 of my friends (Great guys) left US just because of the current immigration issues.
People might not take decission now, but when time comes, that happens all of a sudden, they will not protest or even inform any one, they just catch the plane. No one knows that it has happend.
But can you bring them back if you want. IMPOSSIBLE.
Also Imagin, US is in good situation (not really but OK.), so they are ignoring immigrants, imagin what happens if they want people tomorrow for their survival. With this background, I am sure that they are going to get only JUNK.
People might not take decission now, but when time comes, that happens all of a sudden, they will not protest or even inform any one, they just catch the plane. No one knows that it has happend.
But can you bring them back if you want. IMPOSSIBLE.
Also Imagin, US is in good situation (not really but OK.), so they are ignoring immigrants, imagin what happens if they want people tomorrow for their survival. With this background, I am sure that they are going to get only JUNK.
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Krilnon
05-30 11:23 PM
The 1st of July is about a month from now.
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canleo98
07-26 11:09 PM
My I-140 got approved even though my company also did not file 2006 Tax return. My company is a small(less than 30 employee) loss making company. Our company secretary just gave a letter that company has not filed tax return for 2006 and has asked for extension, attached request for extension. If you are meeting any one of the three criteria of the yates memo, there are very high chances of I-140 getting appoved. Search for yates memo and you will get more details. Is your current wages more than prevailing wages? If yes, then you will be fine. Your lawyer has do a very good analysis of companies ability to pay prevailing wages. So work with your lawyer and you will be fine.
I guess I feel more and more hopeless by each second/minute
My PERM application (5/28/07 PD) stuck at Atlanta
In meantime I asked my lawyer what my employer would need to get for me (my employer has been a major pain and slow beyond words...took years to get PERm going...i'm seriously just done/depressed with so much). My lawyer said they would need to provide 2006 tax docs and sign bunch of papers etc.
Checked with employer...it's an average work place...must have 100 employees i think....and i'm told by HR (this woman in charge seriously has some stuff against me...i don't know) that they don't have 2006 returns, just 2005...come on a legal place like them has to have filed 2006 return.... but this is what i'm told..
I guess what's the point...without those docs, which i assume are initial evidence, i have no hope....
me...really sad....
I guess I feel more and more hopeless by each second/minute
My PERM application (5/28/07 PD) stuck at Atlanta
In meantime I asked my lawyer what my employer would need to get for me (my employer has been a major pain and slow beyond words...took years to get PERm going...i'm seriously just done/depressed with so much). My lawyer said they would need to provide 2006 tax docs and sign bunch of papers etc.
Checked with employer...it's an average work place...must have 100 employees i think....and i'm told by HR (this woman in charge seriously has some stuff against me...i don't know) that they don't have 2006 returns, just 2005...come on a legal place like them has to have filed 2006 return.... but this is what i'm told..
I guess what's the point...without those docs, which i assume are initial evidence, i have no hope....
me...really sad....
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abd
04-07 01:36 PM
I am settng up tea stall at Asian Festival(just for fun) , i will give all my profit to IV. Approx. 20,000 people visit the festival so i should be able to make atleast $200-300 profit with my tea stall.
Also, i am sending my $100 contibution by money order
Also, i am sending my $100 contibution by money order
Dipika
10-27 01:52 PM
Rongch60,
Same Here !
I got 6 months wait letter too. My wife (Dependent) for 60 days letter.
EB2/TSC .
I m lost as well!!!
i filled up #7001 form and also E.mailed a follow up letter today.
i had opened SR on 4th sept, same reply - case is preadjudicated and under review, wait for 6 months. my case is at TSC. i have taken infopass for 4th Nov to check again.
Same Here !
I got 6 months wait letter too. My wife (Dependent) for 60 days letter.
EB2/TSC .
I m lost as well!!!
i filled up #7001 form and also E.mailed a follow up letter today.
i had opened SR on 4th sept, same reply - case is preadjudicated and under review, wait for 6 months. my case is at TSC. i have taken infopass for 4th Nov to check again.
sanju
09-25 09:40 AM
Just curious. Why do you claim ROW is receiving preferential treatment over India when all the countries get the same upper limit of the visas. Now if the Indians ask for more visas just because there are more Indians asking for green cards, wouldn't that be preferential treatment? :)
Why do think that "India" is the name of 1 human being that everyone from India should be treat like 1 person. Each person applies for his/her I-485, even each member of a family is considered separate. So why club one group of people based on a dichotomy that works best in your favor and then argue that there should be no change. Why not apply color of skin to decide the limits, or maybe the language. Because frankly, which country I come from has nothing to do with why I am here, just as the color of my skin or my native language has no relevance to my petition. In any system if you club large group of applicants based on a dichotomy, and say you will get lesser share than the rest, isn't that how you describe preferential treatment ? Is there any other way to describe the current country-quota system? Why not say Tamil SriLankans will autonomously govern 86% of the land and rest of people in Sri Lanka should migrate to the remaining 14%. Is that how it works there? Probably not, then why argue for something which is actually nothing but preferential treatment. That's ok, in olden days, when racial discrimination was legal, people who benefited from it argued in favor of it, just as you are doing in favor of per-country limits. But the society is much better without racial discrimination. Don't you think so? Any special benefits accorded to one set of group over the other is preferential treatment. There is no other way to describe it. Now, if you got a job, which is why you are here, based on the fact that you are from Sri Lanka, then it is a different thing, then you must get green card based on which country you came from. But it would be illegal if actually you got got your job because you are from Sri-Lanka. Then why apply the benefit which is a direct derivative of your employment (and hence employment based green card) based on which country you came from? Is there any relation between your job and your country of origin? If yes, then it is illegal, if no, then why give benefit of your employment based on your country of origin, if no, and you continue to want the benefit of your employment based on your country of origin, wouldn't that be asking for preferential treatment? How else will you chose to describe it? Please help me to understand this.
And here is what I wrote earlier, which you did not want to read because you probably have not answer for this question to help your argument, so very conveniently you just had to skip it entirely. Here is goes ....
I thought we are all equals, unless you think you are challenged in anyways - physically or otherwise, in that case I agree, you are 100% right, there must be a special quota for you. For all others who consider themselves to be equal shareholders to the free society, isn't preferential treatment for any set of people "wrong" and "unfair"? Just asking? I mean are we not equals, if yes, then there should be no quota for any country, if no and you think you are superior, which maybe true, then I should get preferential treatment, if no, and you think you are inferior or otherwise challenged in anyways, well, in that case yes, you sure should be treat better than others.... you know....
So what do you think you are - equal? inferior? or superior? I mean it has go to be one of those, right?
Now if the Indians ask for more visas just because there are more Indians asking for green cards, wouldn't that be preferential treatment?
NO. That would not be preferential treatment. Because as I said, India is not 1 human being who ought to consume the same oxygen as 1 human being namely Sri Lanka must consume. Each applicant in employment based green card is a separate human being. Hope you are not proposing to ration oxygen based on country quota.
Look, I know removal of per-country quota may not work in your favor so you do not want to remove it. Tell me that it is not true and this discussion is over. And if per-country quota puts me at any dis-advantage as compared to you, isn't system giving you preferential treatment over me? How else will you describe it?
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Why do think that "India" is the name of 1 human being that everyone from India should be treat like 1 person. Each person applies for his/her I-485, even each member of a family is considered separate. So why club one group of people based on a dichotomy that works best in your favor and then argue that there should be no change. Why not apply color of skin to decide the limits, or maybe the language. Because frankly, which country I come from has nothing to do with why I am here, just as the color of my skin or my native language has no relevance to my petition. In any system if you club large group of applicants based on a dichotomy, and say you will get lesser share than the rest, isn't that how you describe preferential treatment ? Is there any other way to describe the current country-quota system? Why not say Tamil SriLankans will autonomously govern 86% of the land and rest of people in Sri Lanka should migrate to the remaining 14%. Is that how it works there? Probably not, then why argue for something which is actually nothing but preferential treatment. That's ok, in olden days, when racial discrimination was legal, people who benefited from it argued in favor of it, just as you are doing in favor of per-country limits. But the society is much better without racial discrimination. Don't you think so? Any special benefits accorded to one set of group over the other is preferential treatment. There is no other way to describe it. Now, if you got a job, which is why you are here, based on the fact that you are from Sri Lanka, then it is a different thing, then you must get green card based on which country you came from. But it would be illegal if actually you got got your job because you are from Sri-Lanka. Then why apply the benefit which is a direct derivative of your employment (and hence employment based green card) based on which country you came from? Is there any relation between your job and your country of origin? If yes, then it is illegal, if no, then why give benefit of your employment based on your country of origin, if no, and you continue to want the benefit of your employment based on your country of origin, wouldn't that be asking for preferential treatment? How else will you chose to describe it? Please help me to understand this.
And here is what I wrote earlier, which you did not want to read because you probably have not answer for this question to help your argument, so very conveniently you just had to skip it entirely. Here is goes ....
I thought we are all equals, unless you think you are challenged in anyways - physically or otherwise, in that case I agree, you are 100% right, there must be a special quota for you. For all others who consider themselves to be equal shareholders to the free society, isn't preferential treatment for any set of people "wrong" and "unfair"? Just asking? I mean are we not equals, if yes, then there should be no quota for any country, if no and you think you are superior, which maybe true, then I should get preferential treatment, if no, and you think you are inferior or otherwise challenged in anyways, well, in that case yes, you sure should be treat better than others.... you know....
So what do you think you are - equal? inferior? or superior? I mean it has go to be one of those, right?
Now if the Indians ask for more visas just because there are more Indians asking for green cards, wouldn't that be preferential treatment?
NO. That would not be preferential treatment. Because as I said, India is not 1 human being who ought to consume the same oxygen as 1 human being namely Sri Lanka must consume. Each applicant in employment based green card is a separate human being. Hope you are not proposing to ration oxygen based on country quota.
Look, I know removal of per-country quota may not work in your favor so you do not want to remove it. Tell me that it is not true and this discussion is over. And if per-country quota puts me at any dis-advantage as compared to you, isn't system giving you preferential treatment over me? How else will you describe it?
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