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  • laborchic
    06-05 09:18 PM
    Come on folks. This is the time to be active.

    Dont give up now....lets try and help ourselves...





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  • logiclife
    06-07 01:24 AM
    Is immigration a right? ABSOLUTELY.

    Well, over the past few months we have heard a lot of sound bites like �Immigration is a privilege, not a right�. �We are a country of immigrants but we are also a country of laws.� We will see about that in moment when we look at history and find out how lawful immigration has historically been.

    Let�s focus on one thing sorely missing from our community: The sense of entitlement.

    A lot of employment based immigrants in this country, legally here, on H1, L1, J1 etc. have asked themselves, �What right do I have to ask for change in laws or relief from congress? I am not even a citizen. Lobby congress? As an alien? Are you kidding me? Do you want to get deported? Do you realize you are going �against� the Government?�

    Therein comes the lack of sense of entitlement.

    First of all, legally speaking, there is no distinction between the constitutional rights of citizens and the constitutional rights of those who are non-citizens � legal or illegal. (Non-citizens are also called �aliens�, but I refrain from using that word whenever I remember coz none of us look like characters of Star Wars and we are not green-headed animals with 6 limbs, so I don�t consider myself an alien just because I was born somewhere else on the same planet).

    Second of all, as a person within the jurisdiction of the United States, the first amendment actually prohibits the congress from making any laws against stated rights � one of which is the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances. So not only its legal to do what we are doing, it unconstitutional to pass a law to make it illegal for us to petition (or lobby, advocate, litigate) government for a redress of grievances. And that first amendment isn�t changing, coz to change it, its going to need two-thirds of US congress and three-fourths of states to back it. And we all know, how lucky we are to have 51 senators agree on the fact that sun rises from the east.

    Earned Right or Birthright?

    The fact that you are here and you are here legally and working with the system to earn immigration is something you should be proud of. Not guilty of. If you treat yourself as guests, the government will treat you like a guest. I would rather treat myself two times the citizen. Why, coz it simply much harder to earn a citizenship than to be born into it. I believe that not only we deserve fair and speedy immigration, but also when we do become citizens we should have the privilege to give two votes in elections. Now, I am not trying to display chutzpah here. I am going to back up my claim with reason. See, a lot of us came here 5-10 years ago with almost no money. Many of us never received any formal education in America. However, we have been able to survive and keep a job in this country, even during the stock market crash of 2001 and the economic recession after that. No small feat. We are the last ones to leave the office at night (Actually, that is true for both legal and illegal workers, coz the legal computer programmer is still coding Java at 7:00 PM while the illegal janitor starts vacuuming the office). We relocate across states as-if its relocating 2 traffic lights away. We adapt to different employers, we adapt to all employers. And all these without driving down the wages. Yes, it�s true. We don�t depress the wages and we don�t steal jobs and the labor certification is designed to prevent that and it�s working. We all know how great its working and how intense the process is, especially those who are stuck in Philly and Dallas backlog creation centers.

    So, to sum it up, we have twice to right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, twice the right to everything. It�s an earned right, not a birthright. Our natural instinct should be to exercise the rights we have earned. If we cannot do it now, we are not going to really make anything out of citizenship of Greencard that we are pursuing.

    And coming back to the sound bites about privileges and �Nation of laws� coming out of Washington today, let me say this: The pilgrims, who dropped anchor near Cape Cod in 1620 didn�t go through a port of entry and get their passports stamped and their I-94s stapled. I don�t think the Indians were waiting at the coast of Virginia to stop immigrants. They just came. And they settled. And they called it home. No priority dates. No visa bulletins.

    So you see, what really matters here is whether you feel you are entitled to something or not. If you don�t feel entitled to a fair immigration process that does justice to those who seek legal ways to immigration, then you probably aren�t entitled. To ask for something, you must first believe that you deserve it. And to show that you deserve it, you must ask it loudly and clearly from rooftops. Don�t predict visa bulletins, but work to change and influence the visa bulletin 6 months from now. And no, you wont be deported for exercising that constitutional right.

    �Our ancestors ... possessed a right, which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice has placed them.�

    � Thomas Jefferson (1743�1826, 3d President of the United States, author of the Declaration of Independence)





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  • sanju
    03-10 10:46 PM
    What is this???

    "You just thought about it" and from thin air a tweety bird gave you these figures?????? Its height of absurdity.

    Get a grip on yourself and stop wasting other's time by posting what tweety bird is saying. For heaven's sake please talk some sense.



    As I thought about this further, I figured out the data is even worse than I thought earlier, as this may not have any 2007 numbers. People who filed their labors in 2007 were still waiting in july of 2007. So this data is only upto late 2006. Now the figures could be

    EB-3
    5000 2001
    20000 2002
    20000 2003
    20000 2004
    5000 2005
    5000 2006

    EB-2
    10000 2004
    30000 2005
    30000 2006





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  • senthil1
    04-27 02:33 AM
    My analysis if the law is passed in the current form

    1. Non displacement provision will delay H1b process. But innovation will not be impacted as best companies Like Google, Microsoft and start up companies will not have a problem in proving that skills are not available in the market.

    2. When a company lays off they cannot recruit for 6 months. But a company is laying off people they will hardly recruit for 6 months. Generally when they do less than 5% of staff that will not come under layoff provision and still they can recruit H1b. So only a few positions will be impacted.

    3. 50% rule may make many bodyshoppers and Top indian companies force to recruit US Citizens and medium non public companies may split into many companies. Some H1b dependent small and medium companies may go out of business. It will have huge short term impact on H1b aspirants but they will adjust quickly to change their jobs.

    4. More powers for DOL will make the companies to follow the law and reduction of abuse

    5. Of course the restrictions will make less number of jobs for H1bs and L1s. But when economy improves demand will increase so that H1b cap will be reached inspite of all these restrictions. I strongly believe that system will adjust the new restrictions similar to TARP bill but short term very high impact. But that can be minimised by applying all those restrictions only for new H1bs. Generally more restrictions the persons qualifying will be best and bright and also wages for H1bs,L1s also will increase with improved working conditions.

    6. If pro immigrants like IV can negotiate to include Recapture or increase GC cap. But that depends on chance of passing the bill. If IV and other pro immigrants lobby and block the bill then that makes sense. But if the bill gets bi partisan support then it may be wise to take different approach. This bill may be like 2007 and may not be considered at all.

    I did not read the bill completely but my views were based on some major provisions and also I do not believe the conspiracy thoeries that they want to remove the H1b program first then EAD then GCs. But it is a protection for US citizens. I am not arguing that the protection is right or wrong but most countries in the world are trying to do that when recession. India has 100% protection for jobs for Indian citizens



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  • oliTwist
    01-15 01:32 PM
    Folks,

    There are many discussions on immigration (some in favor and some totally misrepresenting the legal immigration).Mind you many of the ordinary citizens are voting on these posts, which indicate the popularity. Obviously this is one way of increasing the popularity of posts highlighting our case (ala Digg)

    Only a few of the immigration posts are addressing our pain points. One eg is something like: Please help the Immigration System

    Please vote for them and champion the advantages for all by commenting and voting.

    I believe at the moment this is achievable by all. Please act!





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  • Canadianindian
    06-01 12:18 PM
    The New York/New Jersey and Connecticut members very actively participated in calling their respresenatatives. California members have been known to be great participants. Please call.


    Thanks to everyone who has participated and had been participating in Call Campaign Phases I and II. Here comes our next phase - Phase 3.

    For phase 3 of our campaign we need to call the Representatives listed below to seek support for bills HR 5882, HR 5921 & HR 6039 from republican congressmen/congresswomen in our area. This is a very critical Action Item and we at least need to make 300 phone calls to be heard. We only have six representatives to contact this time and We can do this.

    Please use the instructions provided below to make the phone calls.

    (1) Call the congressman/woman office and request to speak with the aide who handles Legislative and Immigration matters

    2) If they are not available leave a VM for them

    I would like Representative "Representative Name" to co sponsor bills
    HR 6039 & HR 5882, HR 5921. All the three bills have wide bipartisan
    support in the house and will help improve American competitiveness &
    reduce the back logs associated with USCIS. All these bills are non
    controversial measures that will help US to stay competitive with a
    highly educated and skilled work force

    (3) As usual Do NOT get into the CIR issue or illegal Immigration. If
    the aide is confusing with CIR or illegal immigration, just tell them
    that these are legal immigration bills.

    (4) If the aide asks whether you belong to the district or not, tell
    them NO if you don't. Mention to them that you already spoke with
    your representative and would like the congressman/congresswoman
    support.

    Here is the list of representatives to contact:

    Mary Bono � California 45'th District
    D.C Office Ph: 202-225-5330

    Brian Bilbray � California 50'th District
    Ph: 202-225-0508

    Ken Calvert � California 44'th District
    Ph: 202-225-1986

    Jerry Lewis � California 41'st District
    Ph: 202-225-5861

    John Campbell � California 48'th District
    Ph: 202-225-5611

    Gary Miller � California 42'nd District
    Ph: 202-225-3201

    This Campaign has been kicked off for the California IV Group a couple of days ago. A few members of Cal. IV have been in touch with the offices listed above past week. We need more people to make the
    calls and build momentum. Let us get going on this Action Item. Together, We can do this



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  • PlainSpeak
    04-19 07:26 PM
    Fully agree with each word you said. Many people with legit US education (not TVU kind that many not so educated people on this forum are taking shelter under the umbra of) who have been in the US for more than 10 years are still lawfully waiting in the line. And this idiot with a BCOM and MCA ( correspondence course from IGNOU) is dreaming of porting into EB2 and screw us up. Shame on USCIS and Shame on DOL. I am really concerned that if legit EB2 applicants don't talk to lawmakers and send emails to USCIS, we will be stuck here for years due to these fradulent porting.

    getgreensoon1....

    Do you even think before you open your mouth !!!!!!!!! ????????





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  • Life2Live
    07-16 11:39 AM
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  • 485Mbe4001
    07-09 04:54 PM
    looks like the bills hit the floor with a crash;)

    Are the bills hitting the floor next week?





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  • wizpal
    03-14 12:29 PM
    I would say the activity in state chapter participation is '5%' at best in contributing members. By that token, you can ignore the non-contributing members. I see thousands of messages in retrogression and like forums while I see hardly dozens of messages in state chapters forums.

    Take the example of state Texas, it has one of the largest pool of House Reps in congress and folks impacted by retrogression in this state is very high. Most of these House Reps are anti-immigrant. I am not sure if it is for both legal and illegal. In TX, there is no state chapter activity for the last 4 months. I called for a meeting, not one responded. I think IV core should come up with a specific schedule for each of the state chapter meetings and also core team should assign a contact for each of the state chapters. Core team should also participate in these meetings to provide a directed leadership. If need be, induct more members into core team..



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  • Humhongekamyab
    07-02 04:58 PM
    We all will have to work to make the injustice visible; only then will the employers start behaving.

    We all remember there used to be a IV voice member who used to leave abusive comments to everybody. Once we all made a hue and cry about this Pappu took action against him by disclosing his identity and since that day we have not seen any complaints by members.





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  • vina92
    02-07 02:43 PM
    This is a great point. Even if we get one time relief,that should suffice because retro might not happen in the future as there will not be 245si/195kH1bs. I hope one of the core group members might want to look at this. This will atleast counteract the exaggerated and bloated immigration numbers by the antiimmigrant groups.


    It is just speculation that it will take 10 years or 15 years. Actually past 3 years atleast 50% h1 were used by TCS,WIPRO and similar companies. So those who are processing gc is less. But it may take some time to clear current backlog as we had 195k H1 cap till 2003. If 65k h1 cap is there then it will be 3 year waiting period for EB2 and 4 to 5 year for Eb3. People will speculate based on number of H1s. But their calculation is not including the number of people who are giving up and also many people are going back. But if they increase H1 then the situation may become worse. I think one time releif will be enough to resolve the issue for
    next 5 years. But Skil bill is asking too much(May be for permanent resolution of
    gc issue) and opposition is more as anti immigrants are quoting the numbers. Remember in 2000 the relief of recapturing previous few years did not attract
    large opposition and passed easily. Simlarly if H1 increase also limited for 2 or 3 years that can be passed easily as we can convince Senators like Sessions.
    But if we keep on asking so many numbers of H1 and Gc and also exemptions
    for Master degree then we have to wait for CIR as this will have lesser impact
    in numbers compared to illegal immigrants.



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  • chanduv23
    04-28 08:49 PM
    AC21 is a law. However, USCIS not yet published the regulation since year 2000, that binds everyone. All these memos since 2000, are internal to USCIS and not binding. They are very clear in the memo that revokation (except on fraud) of an already approved 140 by the petitioner, after 180 days of pending of 485, will not stop the approval of 485, if employee changes to similar occupation. This is just a non bining internal standard of USCIS. It does not have teeth, as it is not a public regulation. However, this internal standard can be changed by any time with/without public notice or through a regulation. Also, one should remember that, they mentioned in one of their memos that, regulation will be much tougher than memo.

    Therefore, as some one is mentioned that, an approved immigrant visa pettion should be always available at the time of issuing GC. That is also a law. This law also need to be met at the time of approval of 485. Therfore AC21 and requirement for availability of approved 140 is two different and counteracting issues.

    In practical situation, the employee has no control over 140 in any stage as it is employer's petition. Therefore, if employee leaves the job as per the AC21 law, employer verywell withdraw the 140 even after 180 days of 485 pending and create a situation of unavailability of approved immigrat visa petion for the employee. Therefore, in the final regulation they will make a rule that favours the employee, if everything was bonafide. It is like a aboundened spouse in family catagory.

    I think, USCIS is currently taking the tough standard to weed out the consulting compaines (to put a leash on GC factories/body shoppers), as they are the one mostly abusing the EB system. Only those people working in GC factories need to worry. It may be mainly due the current economic situation. I feel thats why they are delaying the regulation. Others need not worry.

    Well, 485 denials on ac21 where 140 was revoked has always been happening.
    Your interpretation might be right about consulting companies but these denials not necessarily happening to people in consulting companies, they happen to anyone whose 140 was revoked.





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  • SunnySurya
    05-23 03:15 PM
    Paskal, Nixtor and other moderators, please run a quick check on dbcd.
    I suspect he is same as pointlesswait.

    Agree with original post.

    Numbers USA people are angry right wing citizens.

    Calls from legal aliens who can't vote won't move lawmakers one bit. Money and votes are the only 2 things that matter to politicians.

    Pressure groups and lobbyists have far more reach and influence. IV as a group can use lobbyists and other influence to get a lot more done. Individual phone calls are a waste.

    DBCD



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  • gcisadawg
    03-11 02:03 AM
    Why do you bring Malice with you, everywhere, seriosly how does your family stand you ?
    I have seen your posts earlier, they are full of abuses, unjust full of most useless comments, let me tell you one thing, it is a very well known truth people who are most abusive on cyber space, are most fattoo & have been beaten up kind of people because they spend their life in threat but on cyberspace they become Lion. You are a typical Cyber Sher... But in real life I can guess....

    I second you...Kunju has a history....





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  • nixstor
    06-03 11:22 AM
    Great find.

    We need to get more support from the right/republican side. Please call the republican members.



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  • vasa
    04-10 10:30 PM
    continuing the discussion further why not sell Tshirts/caps and other goodies.
    It may have an upfront cost attached but can be good source too... and i am sure if there are 3000 members atleast 2000 and above would like to buy it ...
    thoughts???





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  • trueguy
    08-27 12:22 PM
    Did anybody get any reply from letter campaign? Why is it so difficult for USCIS to release number of pending application per category per year?





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  • waiting_4_gc
    07-18 12:24 PM
    Filed on July,3rd,
    USCIS received on July,5th.

    I checked with my attorney, they didnt receive my application back from USCIS; Not sure i should worry about it.





    gk_2000
    04-18 06:17 PM
    Many in IV will know that I have never opposed legal porting. However, I disagree that this is a way to get out of the mess. There is a fixed total number of Visa available. Per current rule this first comes to EB2 and is consumed completely leaving nothing for EB 3. If all (or majority) EB 3 moves to EB 2, the chocking will be in EB2 . So the "mess" just shifts its position.

    The true way is -- 1) Recapture, 2) Exclude dependents from Visa Number

    Also exluding STEM grads from quota.

    Yes, I agree with all of that. It is just that 485 filing ability would do so much for so many, that I find it very attractive, especially if it can work at admin fix level





    desi3933
    08-22 01:47 PM
    Here's an anecdote -

    This was back in the late 80s, when I was growing up - in Bangalore.

    India had just lost the Finals of a well fought [field] hockey match to Pakistan. We were all very disappointed by the loss, but it saddened me further to see a victory procession with waving Pakistani flags in the Muslim parts of the City.

    Ofcourse, India is a secular country and more so the United States.. and you can cheer whoever you please..

    But, If you chose to become a US Citizen, and US were in a battle with your country of Origin (let's narrow it down to Sports, to keep it less complicated), which country would you side? If I chose to side with my country of origin, it would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it ?

    >> which country would you side?
    Without a doubt, USA as I am a US citizen and USA is my country.



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